CSUS, College of Engineering and Computer Science, Career Updates, Feb 21, 2008
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The Importance of being a Licensed Engineer © Cici Mattiuzzi 2/21/08
When things are great in the labor market people think it will last forever. Unfortunately that is never the case. Having a backup plan is required. One of the most important things you can do regardless of your major is to have a professional license. It gives you the ability to work in more environments and it allows you to slip from industry to government to self-employment with ease. You need to have job options in order to have income security. A professional license gives you those options.
Over time it is also important to have a license for your career growth. For engineers, many organizations will sort candidates based on whether they have an Engineering-in-Training (EIT) at the bachelor’s level and for experienced engineers the Professional Engineer license (PE). The EIT leads to the PE as you acquire “qualifying experience” and pass an exam. For computer professionals, many employers are looking for Project Management (PM) certification.
With many government agencies you cannot even apply for an engineering position if you do not have an EIT. In order to advance beyond staff engineer (or to be referred to as an engineer) in many jobs, licensing is required. Without reasonable progress to the PE in other organizations you will be terminated.
Not all jobs require licensing. Some companies have an “Industrial Exemption”. With an Industrial Exemption engineers working at the company don’t need to be licensed. However, a number of engineers needing to change jobs find it difficult to shift industries without an engineering license. I have had numerous engineers employed in the electronics industry tell me that when they were trying to move into a government agency after a layoff they were passed over because they failed to take the EIT exam. Private industry tends to run hot and cold so you need to be prepared to explore opportunities in government or private practice.
Passing the PE is a challenge. It is also difficult to pass the EIT, more so with the passage of time after graduation. The pass rates for California averages around a 40% pass rate for the FE/EIT and PE according to the CA Board of Registration. For the Electrical PE the pass rate hovers around 20% and has gone as low as 11% in some years. To pass the exams, a score of at least 70% is needed. It is not hard to understand why people do not pass the exam. THIS IS A DIFFICULT EXAM YET only 20% of test takers prepare for the exam by taking a review course.
It is certainly not difficult to find a review course. EIT review courses are offered every semester here in the College of Engineering and Computer Science at CSUS. In addition, the CA Society of Professional Engineers offers seminars and review courses for the FE/EIT and PE exams.
Dennis Dahlquist, PE, who is on faculty at CSUS College of Engineering and Computer Science, offers some sage advice to individuals interested in becoming licensed. He indicates that with his course the pass rates reach 85%. Here are the details.
Steps to Becoming a P.E.
Acquire a Bachelors (BS) or a Masters (MS) engineering degree from an ABET (Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology www.abet.org) accredited school. You will receive four years of credit for your PE by graduating from an accredited university.
Take the FE, the first exam on the way to a professional license is the Fundamentals of Engineering (FE). The FE exam is often refereed to as the “EIT” exam. Once the FE exam is passed, an Engineer In Training (EIT) license is issued. Take the FE in your junior or senior year when the information is still fresh. If it has been awhile since taking engineering courses, a more extensive review is needed. Professional review courses are tailored for people who have been out of college for some time.
Rack up qualifying years of experience. After working in an engineering position for the requisite number of years, take the Professional Engineer (PE) exam. Time required varies based upon education, discipline, and state. Exams are grouped by discipline (CE, ME, EE, etc.). To pass the PE exam, a review course is highly recommended.
For more information:
California State Board of Registration http://www.dca.ca.gov/pels
The National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES), http://www.ncees.org
California Exam dates: http://www.dca.ca.gov/pels/e_schedule-eng.pdf
California Exam Applications: http://www.dca.ca.gov/pels/a_apps.htm
Dennis Dahlquist, PE dennis@dahlquistpe.com /
How to Pass the Professional Engineering Licensing Exams (FE and PE) full article:
http://www.cspe.com/FunctionalAreas/StudentYouth/howtopass.htm
Links for further information and seminars to help you pass the professional exams:
http://www.cspe.com/FunctionalAreas/StudentYouth/ddseminar.htm
http://www.quartzvalley.com/cspe/
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We now have 130 companies signed up for the event. Companies are hiring for student and career positions as well as for experienced professionals. I can get us to the day of the event but the day of the event requires the help of 120+ students and alumni. You can sign up very easily by clicking on the "Help Sign-up Career Day 2008" showing at the top of the picture in the center of the Career Services Office web page at http://www.ecs.csus.edu/career. I am asking people to sign up for just one hour. That is all it takes if we can get everyone to help. 6 days before the event I will be sending email to all of the volunteers with detailed instructions. This is what you will find on my link. Setup: Will help the companies from 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. on Career Day with any setup they require. This section is full Door People: Greet the students and alumni at the door throughout the day. Distribute seminar info and company lists to attendees. (Students sign up in 1-hour increments) This section is full Teardown: Will be on hand to help with the tear down including helping the companies take down their displays and returning it to their cars. (Takes 30-40 min when fair ends at 3) 1 more volunteer needed Food Servers: Over see the serving of sweet rolls and coffee in the morning from 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. 1 more volunteer needed Backpack Check-in Table Take students backpacks just inside the door. Put a number on the backpack and give the corresponding number to the owner. (Students sign up in 1 hour increments) 5 more volunteers needed
Career Day 2008, On Monday, March 10, 2008 now has 124 companies registered! COMPANIES ARE HIRING FOR STUDENT AND CAREER POSITIONS! List of Companies is at http://www.ecs.csus.edu/career. Check out the list on our web site!!! There is something for everyone-FRESHMEN THROUGH GRAD STUDENTS AND ALUMNI!!! We survey these companies about hiring plans and they have reported a total of 3607 openings!!! Be sure to get your resume, portfolio, and interview outfit before then... You have plenty of warning! All four sections of my 1 unit Career Planning Class EEE/CE/ME 194 and CS 192 all have spaces for students who want to add! THE OUTLOOK: I expect hiring to continue at least thorough the first half of 2008. The economy is contracting rapidly though it does not seem to be evenly spread across all sectors. Some segments are harder hit. The economy is like musical chairs, when the music stops, you want to have a seat! Don’t waste time procrastinating! Get in before things slow down. Use Career Day 2008 to get a job- student or career!!! DO NOT MISS THIS EVENT! PREPARE! BE THERE!
Last week the CSUS Construction Management student team won big time at the Associated Schools of Construction (ASC) competition in Reno. Six CSUS CM student teams were sponsored by the Sacramento Construction Management Education Foundation (SCMEF) at the event. The teams were coached by industry partners and CSUS faculty members. The teams were judged on a variety of construction management skills including estimating, bidding, planning, scheduling, presentation, creativity, and construction techniques.
The event included approximately 1000 students from all over the Western US. "The experience definitely increased the enthusiasm and pride of students in the CM program, according to Mike Anderson, Assistant Professor of Construction Management. "Many of the students were first time participants and they worked incredibly well as a team. Our mechanical team, competing for the first time in this division, placed first in the nation! They beat teams from USC, UW, Oregon St., CalPoly SLO, Chico, Long Beach, BYU, ASU, Cal, and Stanford to name a few. They got a chance to solve real construction projects over a 20 hour period. They build a project, conceptually, putting together a comprehensive proposal and a deliver a project presentation."
According to Henry Meier, CM Alum and Senior Project Manager with HMH Builders, the winning teams will be competing in the national competition in Las Vegas Nevada on March 9th through the 12th at the ASC-AGC event. "We had three wins- commercial, design-build, and mechanical captured first place victories. This is unprecedented! It speaks to the quality of the students and the academic programs at CSUS. No other college in the competition won as many first place honors as CSUS!"
Keith Bishart, CM Program Coordinator, attributes the CSUS team’s success to an extremely strong partnership between students, industry and faculty. "Sac State’s CM program is a demanding program, requiring a pretty sturdy student, but the combination of academic rigor and regular interaction with industry are critical elements to the program’s success."
Come and talk to:
The College of Engineering and Computer Science has instituted a new interview scheduling system here in Riverside Hall. Companies wishing to schedule an on campus interview room please contact Anyssa Stafford 916-278-6366 or stafford@ecs.csus.edu
Students can click on the positions below to find info about the position and how to sign up for an interview.
Company Information Sessions
California Integrated Waste Management Board
Web Development
Information Management Branch
The California Integrated Waste Management Board (CIWMB) is responsible for managing the estimated 88 million tons of waste generated each year by reducing waste whenever possible, promoting the management of all materials to their highest and best use, regulating the handling, processing and disposal of solid waste, and protecting public health and safety and the environment. The Board oversees planning, siting, permitting, and safe operation of solid waste facilities and plays an active leadership role in developing markets for recovered materials and recycled-content products. (See www.ciwmb.ca.gov.)
A Student Assistant is needed primarily to assist with updating CIWMB Internet pages to meet the latest coding and usability standards, as well as develop new pages using these standards. This position is an excellent opportunity to learn about effectively using the web to disseminate information to the public. Students will gain or expand web development knowledge in the areas of accessibility, usability, site architecture, XHTML, cascading style sheets (CSS), and use of FrontPage, Microsoft Expressions Web, Windows Sharepoint Services, and dynamic web templates in a supportive environment.
Under direction of the webmaster staff, the student will be responsible for:
There is no preferred major for this position; however, coursework in some of the following areas may be helpful:
While this position does not require extensive web development experience, candidates should feel comfortable using the web and learning new technologies and technical skills. Other desirable skills include strong written and oral communications skills; self-motivation, attention to detail; good time management; ability to manage multiple tasks and priorities; ability to work independently and as part of a team; and an outgoing, positive personality.
Final Filing Date: Until position is filled. Salary: $11.15 to $16.69 per hour depending on number of units Hours: 16 – 20 hours per week, minimum.
TRANSCRIPTS AND PROOF OF ENROLLMENT ARE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF INTERVIEW. Please submit State Application (STD 678) (available in Career Services or by calling the number below) and resume to:
Contact Person: Eric Connors 916) 341-6151 or econnors@ciwmb.ca.gov California Integrated Waste Management Board Information Management Branch
The Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers (IEEE) student chapter is back! After several years of limited activity IEEE is holding an organizing meeting on Monday, February 25 6:30 PM to 7:30 PM in the Orchard Suite -University Union- 2nd floor. IEEE is a professional organization that provides students with a link to career and professional issues primarily of interest to CPE, EEE and CS majors but all majors are welcome to join. The orgaization is a great place to network for jobs too. It is also a great for people who want to go to grad school. IEEE offers competitions and publishing opportunities. Things that grad schools look! For more info about this professional society go to www.ieee.org . Victoria Breece EEE Student Organizer
Operations Industrial Engineer opportunities The U.S. Postal Service has always been a leader in applying the knowledge and skills of Industrial Engineers in operations, engineering, logistics and Headquarters functions. In support of our efforts to standardize and continuously improve operations, the Postal Service has begun a major expansion of its Industrial Engineer resources through the Operations Industrial Engineer (OIE) initiative. Duties of newly recruited OIEs will include:
FEB 26 2008 - US NAVY CAREER AND GENERAL SCHOLARSHIP INFO SESSION - ALL MAJORS WELCOME The US Navy will host an info session on Tuesday, February 26th from 10 AM to 4 PM in Lassen Hall, 2000 (the Campus Career Center) All Majors are welcome. Open office. Q&A forum about anything regarding the Navy: Careers, Program information, Medical/Dental Programs, Engineering, Scholarships, Experiences, etc.... The US Navy will also attend Career Day 2008 on March 10th in the University Union Ballroom from 8 AM to 3 PM and the Government Agency Career Fair on March 19th from 10 AM to 2 PM in the University Ballroom. Navy Week in Sacramento will be March 9th thru March 16th. There will be various events in the Sacramento area. The Blue Angels will be speaking at CSU Sacramento on March 14th (location TBD) at 830 AM. Special Forces EOD (Explosive Ordinance Disposal) Team may also perform a demonstration with the bomb disposal robot. Contact: LTJG Jay Hyler Diversity Leadership Naval Officer Programs Sunrise Corporate Center 2880 Sunrise Blvd., Ste. 122 Rancho Cordova, CA 95742 Tel: 916.631.7596 Cell: 916.869.7888 Fax: 916.631.7406 Email: or13_sf@cnrc.navy.mil http://www.cnrc.navy.mil/noru/orojt/generalofficer.htm ~ accelerate your life... NAVY ~
Employers are hiring from the resumes posted on our web site at http://www.ecs.csus.edu/career. If you have not already posted your resume on the ECS Career Services Office Web Site, now is the time!!! Just click on the Post Your Resume button! Students are reporting multiple offers from using a combination of the resume posting service, the JETX job listings, and from Career Day 2008. If you missed Career Day 2008 you can still access the hiring and contact information on the ECS Career Services web site at http://www.ecs.csus.edu/career. Cool new feature!!! Employers are able to search your resume now with key words! I also send resumes out to companies so send me a soft copy in MS Word. cici@csus.edu
The College of Engineering and Computer Science Needs Your Data Please report any offers that you have received to ECS Career Services Web site: http://www.ecs.csus.edu/career - click on the "Just Hired" link. If you got a student position we need your data. If you have graduated in the past few years or if you are graduating this semester we need your data. The information you share is used for ABET reports and to help me identify trends in employment and salaries. I keep your info confidential. I only report the data! I use your contact data to confirm and to keep in touch with you.
________________________________________________________________________ Cici Mattiuzzi Director, Career Services Office College of Engineering & Computer Science CSU, Sacramento 6000 J Street Sacramento, CA 95819-6023 Phone: 916-278-7091 Fax: 916-278-5949 Email cici@csus.edu Web Site: http://www.ecs.csus.edu/career